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Love Jesus More Than Your Pain: Jennifer’s Story

Sometimes, God answers your prayers in a way you don’t expect. That’s how Jennifer’s journey began.

She and her husband had been married for 30 years, with three beautiful daughters. On the outside, everything seemed steady—but inside, Jennifer was silently struggling.

Depression, anxiety, deep wounds from trauma, and the weight of parenting adult children had left her feeling exhausted and emotionally distant from her husband. She was in a dark place.

But God.

Her husband was the first to find Delight Your Marriage. Quietly, he joined our men’s program. At first, he didn’t even tell Jennifer. She just started to notice something changing. A peace in him. A gentleness. A stronger connection to God.

Moved by what she saw, Jennifer said yes to his invitation to explore the women’s program. What followed was a spiritual discipleship journey that would not only transform her marriage—it would transform her heart.

How Christian Marriage Coaching Transformed Her Heart

One line within the program touched Jennifer’s heart: “I needed to love Jesus more than my pain.”

It wasn’t even directed at her during the call, but something about it resonated so deeply with her. She realized that in her grief and disconnection, she had allowed pain to take a front seat in her heart.

But Jesus wanted her whole heart.

She confronted lies she had believed about herself, her marriage, and her role as a mother and wife—and let God’s truth replace them. She allowed God to break the chains of shame and fear, and instead chose freedom and forgiveness.

Emotional and Physical Intimacy in Marriage Restored

One of the most beautiful outcomes of Jennifer’s story is the transformation in her intimacy with her husband!

“It wasn’t about frequency,” she said. “It was about connection. And now we’re truly connecting—emotionally, spiritually, physically. We’re more vulnerable, more united, and more in love.”

That emotional and spiritual shift opened a door to true intimacy—something both of them had longed for but never fully accessed.

And it all started when she began to let God love her—and let herself believe it.

How Christian Marriage Help Can Impact Parenting

Jennifer is a mother to three adult daughters. And though parenting adults has its own challenges, her healing began to spill over into her family life.

With newfound clarity on how women are designed by God to be loved—safe, known, and whole-heartedly cherished—Jennifer began to understand how to mother her adult daughters in a way that honors their hearts. She started recognizing what they needed emotionally, just like she had discovered in herself.

Even though parenting adult children can be complicated and painful, she now walks in hope—not shame. God is restoring what was broken.

Handling Conflict in Marriage Without Spiraling

Jennifer and her husband also found a new way to approach emotional triggers. They call it “spiraling.”

This emotional awareness and God-centered communication brought a new peace to their marriage. They don’t fight the way they used to. Now, they support each other through those low moments and move forward with unity.

A Message to the Wife Who Feels Hopeless in Her Marriage

When I asked Jennifer what she’d say to a woman in the same spot she once was, her answer was so honest and full of faith:

“There’s hope in Jesus. Be brave. Even if your husband is the problem, you can still change your heart—and it can change your marriage.”

She continued:

“This program has figured out how to help you out of crisis. Even if you’re emotionally shut down, even if you feel like things can’t get better—they absolutely can. God is in the business of healing, and He uses this process to restore hearts and homes.”

The Power of a Women’s Christian Coaching Community

Jennifer also found healing through the community of women she met through the program.

“It was such a gift to talk about things we never could talk about with friends—especially around sex and intimacy. The support, the prayer, the connection… it’s unlike anything I’ve ever experienced. Women need this.”

She felt seen, supported, and strengthened by walking this journey with other women in a safe, faith-filled environment.

Christian Marriage Healing: A Beautiful New Chapter

Today, Jennifer says her marriage is more joyful, more tender, and more united than ever before. They’ve always been best friends—but now they’re more emotionally connected, spiritually aligned, and fully present for one another.

“There’s nothing I can’t share with him now,” she said. “God gave us a beautiful marriage—but now we’re living it with freedom, honesty, and deep love.”

Final Thoughts

We are so thankful for work that God did in this marriage and the way it not only impacted Jennifer and her spouse, but their children and future generations. He truly is a God of redemption.

With love,

The DYM Team

PS – If you’re ready to take the next step and join a community of like-minded people wanting to build their marriages God’s way, we would love to hear from you: delightyourmarriage.com/cc

PPS – Here is a quote from (another) recent graduate:

“I was on the verge of separating from my husband. Things had taken such a turn for the worse between us that life was not sustainable for me as things were going. My husband joined the program and I noticed some changes in him. Things started improving but we had a lot of healing to do; I had a lot of healing to do…We’ve been to several counselors before this point and my husband wasn’t interested in finding another one. He had asked me to join the Delighted Wife program before but things were too broken and I was not willing to do a program that I thought was only about getting me to have more sex with him…But, after seeing him change some and knowing we needed help, I agreed to the program. While sex was a part of Delighted Wife, there were so many other areas for me to focus on first. It laid the foundation for a better and healthier relationship overall. The intimacy part follows.”

 

Transcript:

Belah Rose  00:01

Belah, welcome to the delight your marriage podcast. You’re joining me, Bela rose, as I dive deep into the beauty power and truths about intimacy, learn not only the practicals, but the heart behind what making love is all about. Delight your marriage. Hi there. Welcome. My name is Bela rose, author, teacher trainer and coach. I’m so grateful that you’re joining this is an opportunity for you to grow through somebody else’s story. I know that some of the most powerful moments of my growth journey has been watching what somebody else has gone through, and today we have Jennifer, who’s had some real sufferings and struggles throughout her life, and when she came to delight your marriage, it was hard to see past those. But I love that she shares specifically that when we make the choice to love Jesus, over the pain, over our history, over the things that the enemy has told us, the lies that we’ve believed, when we say, Wait a second, Jesus, you tell me what’s true. You show me what I should follow. Then we can actually get breakthrough. We can actually get healing. The enemy wants to tell us that every bad thing that’s ever happened to us is what’s always going to be with us, and we’ll never be able to go beyond that, but we know that’s not the story from the Christian perspective. In fact, James, who is the brother of Jesus, which is so crazy to think that Jesus’s own brother became an apostle and believed that Jesus was God. Can you imagine? I mean, who knows you better than your own brother? Not many people. And for the brother of Jesus to say he was God. It’s pretty incredible.

Speaker 1  02:04

But James says this verse, chapter one, verse two, dear brothers and sisters, when troubles of any kind come your way, consider it an opportunity for great joy. For you know that when your faith is tested, your endurance has a chance to grow, so let it grow. For when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing.

Belah Rose  02:33

So when you have challenges, when you have sufferings, it is an important aspect to your growth of endurance, and when you have had a chance to grow in endurance, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing. It’s absolutely the opposite. What the world says is, when you have hard things that you go through, you’re going to be traumatized for life. There’s no hope. You’re going to have illnesses, and you’re going to have this issue and that issue forever. Now I’m not saying that you need to necessarily force suffering upon yourself. A lot of times you actually need to go pursue wisdom, which is what Jennifer did, and she gained freedom from suffering, and God has done so many good things through that. But I just want you to know whatever you are going through or have gone through, Jesus has a new story. He has a new story for you that you have an opportunity in this suffering to grow endurance, which ultimately makes you perfect and complete, lacking nothing. This is a good news for everyone who has gone through and is going through hard things. I’m almost to the point where, when hard things are happening, I’m like, Okay, I know there is good here. Let’s find it. Let’s lean in. There’s going to be a lesson. I’m going to grow through it. I want you to have that. So if you’re suffering today, you might need to hear this, that there is good to come out of this suffering, of this trial, and you can rejoice just like James, brother of Jesus, says, Rejoice in all. Consider poor joy, pure joy in all sorts of sufferings, because it produces in you endurance. All right, so Jennifer has an incredible story to share, and I’m looking forward to diving in with me.

04:28

Let’s do it. You

Dana  04:43

you. Hello, Jennifer, I am so grateful to be here with you today. Yes, thank you. You are so welcome. Thank you. Thank you for being here and having the courage to put a voice to your story. I’m excited to to hear more. Yeah, okay, great. I’m excited. Too. Excellent. Very good. Well, Jennifer, let’s start off, if you would, if you could just tell us a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 2  05:10

Okay, I am in my 50s now. We’ve been married, my husband and I for 30 years, and we have three kids, three girls that are 2124 and 26

Dana  05:31

incredible. That’s beautiful. Oh, I love it. Do you happen to remember Jennifer, how you found delight your marriage?

Speaker 2  05:40

Yeah, my husband found it first and went through the program before I did. And then he suggested, when he was graduating. The first time, he asked me if I would want to go through it, and I said I would. And he also repeated the program.

Dana  06:01

Okay, so he repeated the program at the same time as as you went through. Is that true? Yes, wow. Oh, that’s fantastic. I love it. I love that that you followed his lead, or Jennifer, that’s really special. That means a lot. Yeah, I’m curious, was there anything in particular that you maybe witnessed through your husband going through the program that helped you to decide for sure that you wanted to go through the clarity call process?

Speaker 2  06:37

Yeah, he made a lot of change. He didn’t tell me right away that he was going through the program Okay, and I sort of, you know, just saw something different that he was I knew that he was doing some different kinds of Bible studies that or he would mention some things that he was learning that I didn’t recognize from what we were going through together, whatever Bible study or Bible reading I knew that he was doing. I was like, Are you a part of a different group now? Like, where is this coming from? Okay? And so he was like, hesitant to tell me about it at first, and it made me like, you know, just super curious. And I was like, Okay, what’s going on? So I started pressing him, and then he finally said, Okay, I’m doing this program, and for it’s, it’s for marriage, it’s for husbands, it’s but one, but it’s more than that. And explained it all to me, but, and,

Dana  07:40

yeah, I’m curious, what was your reaction to that? Jennifer,

Speaker 2  07:44

I was, I was excited for him, because it’s he seemed like he was like, it seemed like it was a good thing. I think he had to maybe kind of assure me that this was it like something weird, you know? I mean, like, yes, you know, like, how did you learn about these people? What is Wait, what all these people are on the internet? Like, who you know,

Dana  08:14

from the outside looking in, maybe sounds a little a little different. Yeah,

Speaker 2  08:19

it was definitely something different than what he’s ever done before. So, yeah, I mean, just super curious about it.

Dana  08:28

Yeah, incredible. So through some of the changes you were seeing in him, and when he asked you if you would like to go through this coming into the clarity call process for you. Jennifer, what was that like? Was it just kind of Yeah, sure, get the just come on in there and do it. Or was there? Were you nervous at all?

Speaker 2  08:52

I was not really nervous. I was I thought, yeah, I would love to. I mean, from by that point, I really had seen such a change in him, and we had a lot of discussion around it going in. So I felt, I felt like I understood the program more. I wasn’t nervous like that. I was I thought, well, yeah, I could, I think, I think I could do some work on myself. And it seemed like discipleship program to me. And so I thought, well, you know, I mean, at least, I mean, I know that I need that in my life. So I would, you know, yes, yes. I was sort of in denial thinking that he was, you know, the problem. So it wasn’t like I thought, oh, yeah, I really need help in this marriage, although the changes that he made really made me feel like, yeah, I want to be a better wife, like, I know that I’m not doing i. Know I’m not the best wife that I can be right now. Wow,

Dana  10:03

that’s incredible. Jennifer, would you I know that, and I’m totally going to get to you in just a moment. I just wondered if, if you would be willing to share just a glimpse of some of those changes that you witnessed in him that made you realize or desire to be a better wife.

Speaker 2  10:25

He was more content. He I could see more of a peace with him. He was growing in the Lord, and I had been always, you know, I prayed for a long time that he would be a spiritual leader in our home. He always, he always has been. But, you know, I felt like that was something that we needed more. And I felt like God was really working in his life, like he was really, he was really working through his stuff with God, and that’s really what I had been praying for. And I saw that he was really more content and not I didn’t have the same expectations that he had before, you know, on me. And so it was, I was starting. It was starting to make a difference in our marriage, as far as you know, really just something, that something was shifting, that we had really tried to, that we had been battling for a while.

Dana  11:36

Yes, wow. Absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for sharing those pieces. Jennifer, really incredible. And so you went through the clarity call process, and obviously were invited into the the wives program. I’m curious for for you as as a wife. Jennifer, what challenges were you facing before joining the program?

Speaker 2  12:07

I was dealing with my own sort of emotions and depression and then anxiety with adult children, and a lot of trauma that we have sort of experienced as a family. I was at a pretty low point the last few years and having a lot of feeling, also a lot of expectation, from my husband, we were empty nesters. He was very excited to be an empty nester, because to him, that met more intimacy or intimacy all the time, and I was not ready to go. There I was, I was, honestly, we, we did not have, we’ve always had fun together. And I was, you know, there were definitely pieces of empty nesting that we, you know, I enjoyed, and we had a good time together, and, you know, but it was, but I had a lot of underlying angst, and, yeah, depression. I was in a, I was in a pretty dark place there for a while. And a piece of that was that he was, you know, trying to help me, pull me out of that. And so he had to be really strong and sort of, you know, pull me out of this. And I would, you know, go along with that, and because I love him, and we’ve always, you know, we’ve always had a good time. And I just, I knew that he was being strong for me, and we were really going through really hard stuff with our kids. And it was hard on both of us, but we, you know, we were, that’s just sort of how we were dealing with it. Okay,

Dana  14:33

thank you for sharing that. Jennifer, it’s hard,

14:39

yeah, what?

Dana  14:42

Excuse me, how would you say our program helped you overcome these challenges?

Speaker 2  14:56

Well, like I said it, well, it really is a i. Discipleship program, it’s like it helps you to Belah, really is so encouraging and and the Lord and really has you look at your your life, your thought life, your your heart and your heart towards God and your relationship with God, and you know the daily practices of gratitude and reading your Bible every day, and also just the practice of forgiveness and the practices of just loving Jesus more than your pain. That was, that was, that was very impactful. That was something that Bela said one day on a call, and it wasn’t directly to me. I got so much out of listening to the other calls and recordings that she’s done and things like that. But I don’t know where she said it, but I saw myself in that, that I was really, you know, I needed to love Jesus more than my pain and loving Jesus and letting Jesus love me, I mean accepting God’s love for me. You know, that’s really foundational, because then you can begin to forgive yourself, forgive others, which is the the start of healing. I don’t really think, I think that that’s, you know, I mean, we have to

17:18

face our sin, and we have to deal with that, with God and so also, you know, the faith statements are very important, because

Speaker 2  17:36

I was believing a lot of lies. I think we all do, and that really helped me to turn things around, recognize lies that I was believing, turn them around to truth and believe them in faith. Believe that God was going to do them, and that was for my family, our children, and my marriage, you know, yes, and, I mean, I think it’s all, you know, it just helped me get right with God, do the work that I needed to do there so that I could love my husband better and love my children better and be present for my children and be present for my husband, because that was that’s I wasn’t always I haven’t been in the last few years, completely present for them emotionally and mentally. Wow,

Dana  18:52

wow, that’s incredible. Yeah, it’s big to infer, really big to be, to be present mentally and emotionally for your husband and your child. And your children, that’s really fantastic. What are some of the other specific results or improvements that you’ve experienced as a result of going through the program?

Speaker 2  19:19

Well, intimacy, has been monumental. That was probably our biggest celebration, is that in our marriage, intimacy has improved so much. And I and my husband, that was his, you know, his number one struggle, and his, his mind and his, his heart and like, why he started the program was really because. Of intimacy, that that connection that we weren’t making, that left him feel unsatisfied and empty and hurt and also me, but I didn’t really realize that, because I was to me intimacy, physical intimacy, was kind of on the back burner, and I was participating in it, but I wasn’t wholly Connecting with my husband there emotionally and vulnerably. So our biggest celebration is that our intimacy is has has improved so much, and that we’re, we’re like he and I, kind of, we’ve talked about it, and we’ve said, you know, it’s not like we’re having a whole bunch more sex, but we’re having better sex, Wow, and

Dana  21:07

so good.

Speaker 2  21:08

Like, we weren’t, we weren’t frequency wasn’t the problem. And so, you know, a ramp and frequency, you know, are the things that maybe he was trying, or we were trying, before, you know, to spice it up, or whatever was that wasn’t working. It was the connection, the emotional and vulnerability piece there that we were able to just connect and and are still, are still working on it. We’re starting to thrive there. And really, that’s what is I mean God, God uses that we’ve just learned so much about how God allows us this gift of physical and emotional intimacy so that we can be united and work together for God’s kingdom. Wow, wow.

Dana  22:16

Praise God really. Yeah. Praise God

22:21

Yes, praise God. Really amazing.

Dana  22:24

Yeah. I mean, just to, just to think back in, in what you’ve shared here, that this, this really and truly was a discipleship program, you know, for you to to really encourage you into deeper relationship with the Lord. And I love how you said, you know, learning to that, to love Jesus in spite of your pain, to love him bigger than your pain, and to accepting that God’s love is foundational for you. And when all that that led you to right led to deeper levels of forgiveness, not just for yourself, but maybe for others and and for healing, and then to hear that a byproduct of that work that you were able to do with the Lord led to a deeper connection and intimacy with Your husband is just, it’s incredible. Yeah, incredible. So amazing. And again, Praise, praise God for every ounce of that. Jennifer, my goodness, that’s really, really special, really special. Are there any other results or improvements that that you can think of that you’d like to share. Excuse me,

Speaker 2  23:50

there’s so much I learned, so much. I mean, I’ve just done it has definitely helped me to know how to love my children better, and I mean, like in practical ways, because, you know, we learn about how men need to be loved, and we learn how women need to be loved, like what our what our basic desires are, and what our basic needs are, the way God made us. And so I have three girls, and so I can and what I know, what I’ve learned about myself and the ways that I need to be loved. You know that I need to feel safe, I need to be feel known and wholeheartedly cherished, and so I know that about my girls. I. Now, and I think just growing and maturing and an emotional way that that is part of it, that I can I can learn how to, I can share that with my kids, and I can just practically love them that way, and I can, I can meet their needs that way, and and I believe that that’s part of

25:31

healing our family as well. Because I’m not, I am an empty nester, and I struggle. I’ve struggled with

Speaker 2  25:40

how to be a mom to to our adult children that are struggling so much, and they’re different ways, and it never parenting never ends. And you know God, God is just all about restoration and healing and making us new. And I know that he is, he’s doing that in our family. Wow, wow,

Dana  26:14

that’s incredible. Jennifer, yeah, again, exactly.

Speaker 2  26:21

I mean, yes, I mean I have, I have hope for our future now, and we are, you know? I mean, I feel like I had less hope. I had more. I was more desperate, and feeling like like I hadn’t done a great job, and ashamed. You know, I struggled with shame. I struggled with fear,

Dana  27:00

and now you have hope for your future. Yeah, it’s beautiful. And for their, their futures, and for their futures, wow, yeah. And our,

Speaker 2  27:13

you know, our legacy, you know, it’s so much bigger than us.

27:19

Yes,

Dana  27:21

yes, yes, yes. Ah, Jennifer, this is so good. I cannot thank you enough for for sharing these, these pieces with us. Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s life changing. I mean, yes, and that almost doesn’t seem like big enough a statement for what, for what you’ve experienced is really incredible, right? So I am curious, Jennifer, what, what was it like for you, being on the calls live with Belah, actually working with her. Oh,

Speaker 2  27:54

she is so encouraging and vibrant. At first, I almost didn’t know what to think about her, because she was so just bubbly and bright, and I was not But she, she has an A very contagious enthusiasm. And she is beautiful, and she’s she’s very genuine, and she comes from a place of of love, and she feels really passionate to help men and women. And I think it’s really, I mean, it’s really, it was really great to learn from somebody who works with men a lot and has taken the time to really understand their needs and the way that they feel hurt. May feel hurt, may feel you know emotionally because you don’t, you don’t hear that anywhere else. You don’t see that anywhere else. Nobody is really saying, you know, talking about what men need, or how they need to be loved. And I think it was, it was really interesting on the calls to because she would, she would talk about that, if we if someone hadn’t and, you know, something, a situation where they were had a problem or an argument with their husband, then a lot of times she would say, I mean, very. Compassionately. I mean, I can see how that made you feel, that I’m thinking that maybe he feels hurt this way, or he maybe he’s thinking this and so he really, she really helped me to start to think about the way he may be feeling emotionally in a situation, because it’s it is counter to how we normally think. It’s so different than the way we think. And men are just like women, like they are susceptible to the enemy’s lies as well, so and the devil wants to destroy all of our marriages. So that’s that was. That was what it was like to be on the calls with her. It was also very challenging. There were times when I would feel uncomfortable because of what she was saying to me or somebody else, because it was, you know, a little challenging and confronting, and that, you know, was interesting. Oh, good. And, you know, uncomfortable in a good way. And she’s not a she’s not afraid to, you know, say what, what needs to be said. And I respect that a lot. Yeah, yeah. So it was lovely, yeah. And, you know, there was times when I’m like, Oh my gosh, I can’t believe she just said that. And I’ve asked her questions on calls before that she she gave me an answer that I did not expect, and I was on it like jaw to the floor like, wow, did not expect that today. Thank you, right, right. And so all that was very refreshing and educational. And I mean, just not, not yet I would learn. I learned from that so much.

Dana  32:11

That’s so good, that’s so good. I’ve been in that seat, Jennifer, I know exactly what you’re talking about. And it’s, it’s that in insiders, information all coming from a place of compassion and and love, but yet, you know, and help you toe the line a little bit too. It’s so sweet. Yeah, it’s good. I’m so grateful for that. That experience for you, it is. It’s priceless, really? Yeah, it is, as a wife, I can say that for I can say that very confidently. So good. How about the community? Jennifer, what was it like being in the women’s community? For you,

Speaker 2  32:55

that was great, too, really beneficial to hash out some things with a group of women that you can’t talk about these things with anybody else, and especially sex, that things that you know, subjects that are taboo you wouldn’t talk about with your other friends, and I’m sure men don’t talk about those things either. So, you know, it’s just, like, gender specific, like you’re just with women. You are. You’re bringing up things that you know. You think, oh gosh, I don’t know if I should bring this up, but I’m just gonna, this is what I’m struggling with, so I’m gonna bring it up, and then before you know it, somebody’s saying, I’m so glad you brought that up. I’ve been struggling with the same thing, and you know, so it’s just like, really good processing, but between calls and I’m like coaching calls, because we also say, Well, what do you think Bela would say about that? Or what did you hear Bela say this? And what do you think she meant by that? And just processing that, I think women need to do like, you know, like we’re like, let’s hash this out. And if you have a really hard situation, or a hard week you or anything specific going on, you can talk about it on Slack and get get people praying for you. And the calls, accountability calls are really cool, because you share, and then someone prays for you, and then that person shares, and then the next person prays for them. So you are receiving prayer and praying for others and a really powerful way. Wow. Yes,

Dana  35:02

very powerful. Awesome. So good. Jennifer, I just love it. I love every ounce of this. I wonder if you would just take a moment and think about the most impactful moment for you during your time in the delighted wife program? What would you say that was

Speaker 2  35:28

probably when, when Belah had me do a thought like sort of an inventory of my thoughts. I don’t know what she called it, but it was, I was, I was stuck having a lot of negative thoughts. And so she had me do an assignment that turn, you know, were to to sort of interrogate those thoughts and and pray about them. And you know, if they were not true, to decide what, you know, ask God what the truth was about each thing. And if God says that’s true, then turn it into a belief statement. And so I I was able to turn around the negative thoughts that were plaguing me. I was allowing myself to be plagued by them. And I was really, I was really stuck there, so turning those things around into faith statements and and really just believing them and repeating them every day to my self. And then also, you know, if part of that process is okay, what you know, like seeing the damage that has occurred because I was believing that lie and recognizing that I hurt my family in certain ways by believing these things and allowing myself to be stuck in that for a pretty long time, and acknowledging that sin to myself and confessing it to God and to my husband and to my children when, when it’s appropriate, yes, and saying, you know, just becoming free from that, because that’s, that’s where the freedom is, is when you break those chains. And that is, you know, that I believed lies about my intimacy with my husband, and my role is a wife, and my role as a mother, and you know how I raised my children and so on and so forth and so really unlocking those and allowing God to break those chains, and forgiving myself and allowing that I have been forgiven, and living in that forgiveness and that freedom and believing the truth for my future. Wow, and that’s the hope. Yes,

Dana  39:24

wow, freedom and hope. Jennifer, I would love to hear how how you would describe your marriage now,

Speaker 2  39:39

more joyful, sweet, and we are, we are so much. We have always been very close. We’ve always been best friends. And, yeah. We’ve always been there for each other, to help each other, but now we are more united, and our love for each other just seems like it’s getting deeper and deeper, because we’re we’re more together. We’re more united. We’re more there for each other emotionally and we’re vulnerable. We’re able to be vulnerable and talk through any situation. I don’t feel like there’s anything I cannot talk to my husband about, and I’m somebody who has been emotionally shut down for a long time. So now I feel like, yeah, now I feel like I can, I can talk to him about anything that may be on my mind and or, you know, on my heart, and I can be vulnerable with him. I can share any, any, any thing with him. And, yeah, it’s just, it’s beautiful. We’ve, it’s beautiful. We have a, a really great marriage, and we have, you know, it’s not like we’re we don’t have any problems anymore, but I think what we what we do, is what we know is like where our weaknesses are and where our emotions might take us down a spiral. And so we call it spiraling. It’s like, okay, we can recognize this. I’m starting the spiral. Let me tell you about it, or let me whatever you know, yeah, let me ask, yeah, let me ask your forgiveness. And gonna do better, you know, let me, can you help me with this? You know? And just recognizing the spirals and saying, Okay, well, we’re not going to get stuck in here. We’re going to just, we’re going to we’re going to not be fear for me. I’m not going to be fearful. I’m not going to handle this, and, you know, I’m not going to be ruled by negative emotions. I’m going to ask God for strength to help me out of the spiral. And I know that if I if I behave, though, like I trust God and and if I choose to believe God and lean on God and trust His truth, then I don’t have to spiral out of control. Wow,

Dana  43:10

so good. Jennifer, yeah, I love it, recognizing the spirals, I mean and, and, and dealing with them in that time, being able to that I think it ties back to freedom and hope and freedom from the spiral, because you’re able to recognize it so good. Oh, my goodness, I cannot. Thank you enough for sharing your story with me today. Jennifer, I truly appreciate your time and your courage, your honesty, so many wonderful things, so many wonderful things you’ve shared. So before we finish, I wonder what advice you would give to a wife who is in a similar situation to where you were prior to joining the program.

Speaker 2  44:01

Well, I would just say there’s hope in Jesus and to be brave and to just face it head on and trust this program they have really figured out how to help you get out of crisis, and you can really make a difference in Your marriage, even if you think that your husband’s the problem. Even if he is the problem, there’s still so much that you can do to change your situation and to change your heart. And it’s it’s amazing how being humble and. And working on yourself makes such a big difference in your marriage. Yes, so I would just say, be brave and do the hard work, because it’s worth it.

Dana  45:16

So good. Yes, yes, yes. Amen. Jennifer’s anything else you’d like to add before we go?

45:29

I can’t think of anything. Yeah, you’ve

Dana  45:32

done such a beautiful job here. I love it. I love your your bravery, your courage to step into this process right from the beginning, and clearly, Jennifer, you did such a beautiful job leaning into the Lord and listening and applying. I’m just, I’m so thrilled to hear not just about where your marriage is, but where parenting is for you at this time, and what you’ve learned even, even in that area, it’s so beautiful. JENNIFER So again, thank you. Thank you so much for for being here. Oh my gosh, it’s so good and and obviously I, you know, always have to say it, just praise God for every ounce of what he’s done here in your heart and in your marriage, it’s beautiful. Jennifer, so job well done. For

46:24

sure. Yes, thank you. Praise God.

Dana  46:27

Praise God. You are so welcome, excellent. Thank you. Thank you. You

Speaker 1  46:40

you. Thank you, Jennifer. Praise the Lord. It’s amazing if you’re like Jennifer and just really not understanding how to make things better in your marriage, whether you’re the husband or the wife, you know that her husband went first. We’d love to walk alongside you. This is a journey. It’s hard work, but, my goodness, it’s worth it. Delight. Ym.com/cc

Belah Rose  47:07

it’s a free clarity call. It’s essentially a consultation where we can listen and find out if we’re the right fit to help you. We’re not always going to be the right fit for everyone, but no matter what, this is going to be a good experience. You heard Dana that she’s one of our clarity advisors, and she is just so soft, warm, empathetic, because she’s been there herself. And our other clarity advisors are in similar they just they love so deeply because they know what the hurt is like, and God has done incredible things for them through this work. And we’d love to be part of your story. So let me pray for you, Lord Jesus. I thank you that James is encouragement to Consider it pure joy when we go through trials of many kinds, because it is growing us in endurance. It is growing us in endurance, and when endurance has been complete. We are perfect and lacking nothing. So this is the journey you have etched out for them on purpose. There is reason for it. It’s not because you’re mad at them. It’s not because you don’t like them, it’s because you want them to be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. Lord, I pray for all of us that we would grow in endurance. Lord, that we would love you more than our pain, more than wallowing in the difficulties. Instead say, Lord, I am paying attention. What do you want me to learn? How do you want me to grow through this in Jesus name? Amen. All right. Thank you so much for your attention and listening and such a joy delight. Ym.com/cc

Speaker 1  48:44

if you’re at all interested in learning more about our programs, it’s just a phenomenal opportunity for transformation that we get to see over and over again. It’s incredible. All right, God bless you. Have a great win. You.