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Belah here. If I told you how my husband proposed to me, you would be shocked that I said yes (well I didn’t exactly…but that’s a different story…).

But that is not the man I have today. Just this past weekend, Mr. Romance, surprised me by making dinner, getting our 2 toddlers ready, packing extra toys to keep them occupied, packing an entire picnic, bringing wine glasses and my favorite bottle of wine… which we enjoyed in the park under the stars.

Stuff like this is pretty normal and I believe The Surrendered Wife (book by Laura Doyle) and Delight Your Husband (book/video course by me, Belah Rose) are the two resources that are most significant to this transformation. If you get the surrendered stuff (Surrendered Wife) and the sex stuff (Delight Your Husband), give it 6 months and you will have an incredible man…I truly believe it.

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Author of Surrendered Wife, Laura Doyle, is on for the second part of her interview. (I hope you’ll listen to the first part to see how sad and broken her marriage was). But, its amazing to see what happened.

Here’s some quotes from this show:

• “I almost divorced the man of my dreams.”
• “All control is based in fear. [Because I’m surrendered] I really do feel like I’m a woman of faith now.”
• “Fear is still going to come up. Make the decision that something else is more important.”

 

Hear more from Laura Doyle:

The Surrendered Wife (Please, please read this!)

Empowered Wife (new name of Kill All the Marriage Counselors book)

getcherished.com

 

 

0:02
Welcome to the delight your marriage podcast. This show where you hear from amazing and inspiring wives sharing their struggles, triumphs, and advice for this journey called marriage. Here’s your host belah rose.

0:18
Hey there, and welcome. Thank you for joining. I’m not sure if you’ve heard the delight your marriage podcast before. But I focus on inspiring and empowering marriages, wives, specifically in their marriage. I speak specifically to wives, because I feel as though we as women really need to be empowered with role models for marriage. If you’ve seen chick flicks, you know that there are so many unhealthy relationships displayed as appropriate. We, we think that it’s appropriate to disrespect our man, and he’s going to come back begging for us to forgive him, or we think it’s a good idea to embarrass him in front of his friends. And he’s going to recognize that he did something wrong and come back and, and, you know, give us a bunch of roses or something. And unfortunately, that’s not reality. We see these things constantly in movies. And it’s not the way humans work. We don’t work like that. And I think it’s wonderful. My guest today shares this is a second half of her interview. And she really gives the right perspective on relationships between a husband and a wife, between a man and a woman, what our unique natures specifically enable us to come together in such a complimentary way and such a beautiful one fitting into the other way. And I will say that, when I first heard her, it really sparked something unique in me. Now, of course, I have read many, many marriage books. I have read many of the marriage books that are prescribed on this podcast, and certainly, all of them have their merits. But something was quite unique about Laura Doyle, her story, and the way that she presents her message, I went back and read her book surrendered wife. And I have to say, this is one of the life changing marital books I have ever read. It has absolutely shifted my perspective on marriage, on husband and wife relationships on what you as a wife can do. significantly changing the course of your marriage significantly impacting who your husband is in your marriage. It’s amazing to me, give it six months, give it a year, and you very well, more than likely will have a very different man by the end of it. It is in credible, I’ve got to tell you, I was just talking to my sister, and on the phone. And she was asking me how my weekend was and just randomly I mentioned that my husband made a surprise picnic for us after making dinner, he got all this stuff together and got real forks and real bowls, and, you know, a big blanket for all of us to sit on and had a wine bottle and glass of wine, he brought toys for the kids to enjoy. Well, we just enjoyed the night in the park. And that’s just kind of normal at this point. I think the week before that was my birthday. And he took me on a really amazing adventure that I had never been in New York City before. It’s just incredible. And I have got to tell you, this is not the man I married the way he proposed to me. If I told you the story, you probably would be shocked that I even said yes. Now I adore my husband, but he was not this kind of man beforehand. And I’ve got to tell you, in large part, God has really shifted things Laura Doyle’s work, the work that’s in delight your husband, I would say, if you could combine those two, together, you would have basically the recipe for any marriage that’s broken. You could I believe, really fix it. From those two understandings of the sex stuff and their surrender wife stuff, you get those things together, you are golden. Alright, well, without further ado, let’s listen in to the second half of Laura Doyle’s story, but I do hope that you will strongly seriously consider reading surrendered wife. I don’t get any proceeds from her or her work, but I’ve got to say it is life changing. So let’s let’s dive in.

5:05
Cool, well, okay, so to move on to the second part of this, I would love to hear you did share a little bit already, but how your marriage looks like now you showed us kind of what it look like in the difficult stage and, and how has it transformed? Well

5:25
I, I think is really exciting and moving for me is I think about myself, like, almost 26 years ago, standing in doctor and saying I do so with my big fluffy white dress on. And it’s kind of funny, there’s a picture of us that day where we’re just goofing around or whatever. But I’m like trying to pick him up. He’s in his tuxedo, I’m in my big, white fluffy dress. And I’m trying to pick him up. And I love to show that picture now. And it just says at the top, you know, not a relationship expert. Because I didn’t know a lot of right, my parents were divorced. And following what I saw mom do and it was a failed recipe by definition. And when I look back, now, I think that I was I was hopeful. And I was optimistic. And I just thought we could figure it out. And I just felt like I have the relationship now that I dreamed of when I said I do that all the things I hoped for. Oh my god, Sophia, still because you know, a month it was I almost didn’t have this. I almost I was divorced and the man of my dreams. Wow. And so it’s still pretty exciting to for me and gratifying. Yeah, yeah. And I just, I just don’t know, anything that I think I value more than knowing how to love and be loved by my husband. Wow. And so yeah, it’s pretty great. And as I mentioned, there’s a lot of playfulness, you know, I just never know what I’m gonna get like, like a little shove into the shower bed while we’re walking along or something. Mr. Fay that kind of goes along with it. And I treasure that too. Because we, you know, we just love to laugh together and tease each other. And that really went missing when there was we had a lot of Cold War’s at my house where there was silence. But it wasn’t like, you know, it wasn’t just relaxed. I was like total tense silence, like, we’re not speaking silence kind of things. And that that laughter to me is such a higher level of emotional safety and confidence in ourselves and each other and our connection.

7:51
Wow, the laughter is that emotional safety and confidence? Yeah,

7:56
exactly. You laugh when you’re scared? Yeah, yeah. So I laugh a lot. And I love to laugh.

8:06
Yeah, it’s just so beautiful to hear. It just feels like you’ve transported us there into this place of, you know, roses and butterflies.

8:19
Like that. And she said butterflies to like the whole was so interesting is when I was in my controlling critical mode. There weren’t butterflies, of course, and there certainly weren’t butterflies in my stomach, right? Because I was kind of going around with my hardhat and my clipboard and my whistle or whatever, managing everything. And now I do feel that exhilaration like it even even with love making, especially with that too, right? i Since I’m taking a more vulnerable approach, and more feminine approach. I don’t ever, like I used to say to him, like we never make love your hands on my hips or whatever, which is so not attractive and was not. Right, let’s you mean? Yeah. So. And when I, you know, now I’ll just like I get my little Victoria’s Secret outfit on or whatever. put myself on, you know, I got a magazine or something. I’m just doing whatever, you know, like, it’s a normal day and I’m wearing my normal outfit, you know? Yeah. And he, you know, he was like, knock the magazine into my head or something. And just and or he won’t, you know, so I mean, you take a risk, right? We need to do it that way. You’re more vulnerable. And I’m, I’m kind of sending a signal like, Hey, I’m available and it’s so much more exhilarating to be in that feminine role and get approached and feel desired and devoured than it is to like, have a clipboard.

9:55
Yes, yes. It’s so good. That’s interesting that you said that you take feminine approach. So so it’s a very, very judicious like you were very intentional about being pursued. Is that right? Yeah.

10:10
Because I have what’s really important what something I really value is feeling desired. And if I am I telling him what to do? So even if I’m just saying, Hey, we should have sex or let’s have sex, it’s more of a, an order, right? It’s like, okay, let’s do it. Because you said we should do it. So we’re doing it. Whereas, so it’s almost like you can’t win from that position. Right? I can’t really, because I’m like, Wait, does he really? Does he think I’m hot? Or is he just doing it? Because I? Yeah. So for me, it’s just more thrilling and gratifying to to find out, see if he desires me. And yeah, the more I take this goddess, the fun I approach, of course, and more feminine I am right. That’s the, that’s the big thing, too. It’s like I can really set this gender contrast to like maximum, which is when they excitements the highest I get the more feminine I show up, the more masculine he shows up in another more, I’m like, Oh, he’s amazing. Oh,

11:16
I love that. I love that. Yeah,

11:19
it can be challenging these I think, as modern women. Whether you’re raising kids, or you’re in the workplace for 40 hours a week, you are having to manage things. And that’s where you have maybe got your hardhat and your clipboard on, right. So if you’re three hours a week, like I’ll give you an example, actually, my husband, before we met, he dated a teacher, she’s a third grade teacher. And she was in the habit of managing her eight, nine year old so she would say to my husband, John, she’d say, go sit down, put that away. Like she was still oh, gosh, like, totally oh, gosh, he broke up with her. I think it’s like, I mean, we can laugh at her. But in some ways, I think every modern woman has this challenge. Because you might be out buying stuff for the kids. And you’re often like, Okay, I’ll buy his underwear too, or you’re making their doctor’s appointments. And so you’re making his to do and it’s like, it’s a little bit, I think it can just take a little bit of concentration and focus to not fall into the role of mothering your husband, or managing your husband, either one. Right, and both are just sadly for intimacy.

12:32
Hmm. I just think that’s so important. I just hear it so many times from wives where it’s so evident that they are managing their husbands and yet, yeah, oh, it’s just in sometimes I’m, you know, when I coach, it’s just exciting to hear like, okay, I can just say, Okay, listen to Laura Doyle’s interview. Just listen. Learning i that is Lord. Yeah. Yeah, I love that well. Okay, so tell us then if you could, if you could dumbed down the three chief reasons that your marriage has been successful? Could you tell us those?

13:15
Sure. Well, first of all, I would say the first one is recognizing that intimacy is like anything else in life. It’s, I thought, I mean, I had a friend in college, who took psychology because she was trying to figure out her boyfriend. And I was like, That is so not necessary. And I had my own little self program. And my textbooks were like Cosmo and glamour. I’m like, Oh, I’ve got this handle. So and So sadly, you know, surprisingly, everything that I learned about how to that was true about how to have a successful relationship was kind of the opposite of what I learned in those magazines. It’s the opposite of marriage counseling, where you go and complain about each other for an hour a week, or fix him or, or say disrespectful things in front of a stranger and husband like that is just setting you back emotionally. And so for me, I think, you know, finding people that had what I wanted and really asking for their advice, that was huge. Yeah. My mom give me write that information. She didn’t have it herself. But I think about it like the way I think about a 16 year olds, like, we don’t just hand in the car keys and say, Hey, you’re 16 Now go take the car for a spin, you know, have fun, okay? Okay, first, you need some driving lessons, you know, behind the wheel or give you a written test, then you’re, you’re gonna take the exam and get a license. And then and only then, do we expect you to even though we think you might get into a little accident now, but and I just think it’s the same way with relationships that it’s You haven’t had good modeling, if your parents are divorced, or if they don’t have the kind of relationship you want to have, then you just need to go somewhere else to get the skills. And there are just, you know, there’s the six distinct intimacy skills that have made all the difference for me. So that’s one thing is just really treating it as one more thing that you want to learn and master if it’s important to you like making an omelet or learning to ski. And then, and I think the same for you go

15:27
to the second one. Can you tell us where can we find those skills? Oh,

15:30
sure. Absolutely. Yeah. So they are? Well, my new book, it’s called First kill all the marriage counselors, and I spell out each and every one of the skills and describe this very specifically and practically, exactly how to apply them like down to the words that you could use with your husband, that will get you amazing results. And you can go to get cherished.com It’s all about feeling desire, cherished and adored everyday for life, and get cherished, calm, we haven’t get chairs to challenge. And so it’s my goal for every woman to really enjoy her birth, right, which is to be desired, cherished and adored. So I want that to happen. Like maybe starting this weekend, let’s say so if you do the get cherished challenge, you will get a series of emails with experiments that you can try in your marriage, to see if you get good results. And let me just tell you, yo, well, because this has been tried with hundreds of 1000s of women all over the languages. And it’s really, it really works.

16:36
That’s awesome. That’s so cool. Okay, get cherished.com We’ll also have this linked up, but the light your marriage, so we’ll have that for you, too. Okay, so the second one? Well,

16:45
the second one, I think, for me was really about restoring my dignity. And kind of back to the courage theme. And that is that just using the tone of voice, more befitting of a calm, mature woman, and not the one of like a screeching child or my mother on her worst day. Really, I feel like through this process of trying to save my marriage, I really became my best lawyer like this was the best self improvement program I could have ever undertaken. And it’s transformed me in so many ways. And that that dignity thing is just been huge. I feel I feel so much better. I’m not that person who’s always having to fight city hall anymore. I’m calmer and I’m just more dignified is the word that that comes to mind. And that I think that the third thing that has made all the difference, for me, huge, huge difference is a community of like minded women. And it’s not the easiest thing to find even a church, it’s not the easiest thing. And I think that’s partly because, again, there’s just, I mean, we don’t have relationships, one on one in school. And if you didn’t have good modeling, it’s like we’re gonna find these women that have good relationships, and want to only improve that and strengthen that foundation by being respectful and being feminine and receptive. And I think that, if you’re having trouble finding that, I mean, that’s one of the things that we’ve worked hard to do is create that community because your husband can’t be your sole support. It just isn’t possible, right? He’s one, you know, man, and I know Deborah Tannen talks about how women use about 2500 words a day more than men do. And I laugh and think about, I know that my house and probably the whole world over like, six or seven at night, like he’s out a word. And you’re still like, Hey, I got 2500 words left to use your sister’s girlfriends. Yeah. And there’s gonna be times as a mere mortal woman that your husband does get on your very last nerve. So I don’t want to leave the impression that he never hurts my feelings or walks the new rug with his black shoe polish on or anything. For that, I say I’ve already got Okay, now my rug is ruined. That’s one problem. If I make my marriage a mess out of it, then I got two problems. So I can, I can vent to a girlfriend and say, my Rogue and she can empathize. And that feeling gets to stay in the sun. But one problem I don’t have is bickering in my marriage.

19:29
Hmm. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, I love that. You say that. There’s two problems then after you. Yeah, you’ve got a messed up rug, and you’ve got a messed up relationship, or you’ve got to fight through or whatever. Yeah, I love that. Okay, well, we’ve talked about intimacy quite a bit, but if you could, would you share a chip that you wish you knew about earlier? Specifically, sexual intimacy?

19:51
Yes. Well, I really love the policy of being available and ever. Your husband approaches you for lovemaking. And I’ll tell you well, I’ve taken a lot of heat from that suggestion, because I think people here like wait, but it’s my body and I get to choose and sure course you always get to choose. And what I’m suggesting is that you choose the opportunity to have that physical, emotional, spiritual connection with your husband, as it really is the thing that distinguishes a romantic relationship from every other relationship you have, like you might not your kids, you might share intimately, emotionally with your sister. But the one thing that really makes a romantic relationships special and amazing. And if that if that piece goes missing, or is hurting, it really affects the whole rest of the relationship. So Cindy, for that stress relief for that pleasure to get those great chemicals going through your brain actually that result. And, you know, for I have clients that say, well, it’s just it’s not that fun. For me, that’s like, you know, it’s just for him. And I just want to make it all about you make it the most pleasant thing you can think of. He’s really does want to make you happy in bed. So it’s incumbent on us to figure out how that’s going to happen. Like I say, my husband has memorized a complicated set of instructions to make sure that I’m always thrilled in the bedroom. Like, you know, it was that interview, I’m sure it was like, Wait, gotcha, gotcha. Okay, no. And I just find, I mean, I’ve asked 1000s of men, I’ll say, how important is it to you that your wife is happy? And they all say the same thing to go? It’s, it’s, it’s everything. So most important things very, yeah. So yeah, if you’ve gotten to a place where sex just feels like a chore, yeah, hey, that you good news. You’re the one with the power to transform that and really make it an area of strength and pleasure and fun.

22:03
Hmm, I love that. Yeah, I love that. So just make sex all about you. It’s brilliant. It is always all about

22:11
us, as women. Forget, you know, we forget who we are and how we were made special. But when you bring yourself back to that place, you remind yourself to get mindful of it again. Bye bye. And one of the little tips if I if we still have time, I just think about this is that if you’ve got something that you want to have happen in the bedroom, it words you’re awkward sometimes in the bedroom, so you know, it can be really sexy and just titillating and fun, is when you’re somewhere else with him, like you’re out to dinner or you’re, you’re out walking together and you can just like whisper in his ear, you know, you know, it was really, really awesome as if we pretended you were a pilot and I was uh, you know, I was right, like, whatever it is. Bring it to him outside the bedroom. He knows he’s gonna take notes. And then when you’re inside the bedroom, you know, let the words just be minimal, because you can give a lot of feedback verbally, but not verbally to write. You can be phony, or just expressing your pleasure without actually hearing words.

23:21
Yeah, no, that’s so good. I just love that. Awesome. Okay, well, now, kind of my final question to you is due to the specific marriage that you’ve had, what are some opportunities you’ve had to serve or get to know God?

23:35
Okay, well, I gotta tell you, for me, the whole concept of surrendering has been just one big spiritual journey where I’ve really grown to trust God. And what I mean by that is, I didn’t, I didn’t trust my husband to do things. And I felt like I had to control them. And that was all all control is based in fear. You know, if you’re not afraid, you’re gonna have to wait longer or pay more or do more work. You don’t have to try to control it. And so it was a giant metaphor for me, like, my husband’s not going to take care of me. It was like, God’s not going to take care of me. That was fear. And by using the opportunity I had in my marriage to practice having faith in my husband and trusting my husband, it gave me these incredible trust muscles for God. And like I say, this just gigantic, thrilling adventure unfolded for me as I started to do that. And the more that I you know, and as I continue to do that, I I I mean, my life is amazing now, right I get from home being a writer and a relationship coach and I work with other relationship coaches that you know, I have 20 coaches here at Laura Doyle connect and I get to connect with them every week, my my community of women and so Like, it’s like all these blessings that have come out of you know, there was a practical lesson for me in a spiritual realm. And my husband was he was that lesson like, just, yeah, it was just about, I’m a I’m such, I really feel like I am a woman of faith. Now. I understand before, I know what faith meant. I didn’t know what humility meant before. And so both of those have been really. I feel like those are big blessings that I got.

25:38
Yeah, yeah, I love I love those metaphors, talking about how all all control is based in fear. And that fear, fearing that God is not going to take care of me, and that’s why we control and oh, that’s so good. Someone out there needed that. Maybe it was me. Really good. Yeah,

25:57
I appreciate getting to hear myself say it too. Because it’s just a reminder of for me, this is it, the fear is still going to come up. And if I just go back to my quote, If I make the decision that something else is more important to trust my husband to trust God, then that’s when the amazing miracles happen. Right? I mean, the whole thing for me, I do feel like I got my miracle in my marriage. And yeah, and I, I’m very grateful and thankful to God for that.

26:27
Man, that’s, that’s so good. So then a book or program that you would specifically recommend?

26:34
Oh, I recommend this right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And, and first, kill all the marriage counselors. You know, I mean, the surrender wife is just always, it’s such a precious thing to me, because it’s helped me connect with so many women all over the world that identified and really got a lot of hope out of it. So that book was it’s a 15 year old book. And, and it just, you know, I continue to get an email, I get emails and Facebook posts every day, like, oh, my gosh, I just read through your wife, and wow, oh, you know, my whole world is changed. So So I certainly recommend that for me that first killed a marriage counselors, it’s, it’s my new book, and it really represents, like, everything I’ve learned from coaching all these women in the last 16 years, I felt like I’m a little bit, you know, I mean, some wisdom has come over those years that I didn’t have when I wrote the surrender wife, but anyway, so they’re both they’re both like my children. I love them both. And I promise you’ll find blessings in both of those books.

27:42
Oh, that’s awesome. Well, we’ll take good care of your children and, and, and read them up and be excited about them. So that’s, that’s awesome. Yeah. And I’ll also have those linked up on on the show notes. So that’s great. Okay, so my final question is, if you could go back to year one, sit yourself down. What is the one piece of advice that you would give to you? Oh,

28:09
yeah, I feel sad for when you’re married, Laura. Oh, she didn’t know what she was afraid of. I think that was that’s the main thing. That she was so scared every day, and just like, took shallow little breaths and didn’t see how things were gonna ever work out. And I guess I would just, I just would want to tell her that you know, you’re doing good, you’re doing fine. And you’re going to find your path. And, and it’s, it maybe isn’t going to look exactly the way you think it is. But you’re going to have a great adventure, and a great love story. And yeah, I don’t know how that’s applicable to other women Exactly. As I’m saying that Oh, no, that’s that’s helpful. advice, but I get I like it. Yeah, the reassurance that yeah, faith in the things that are unseen, right. So I guess that that’s what I’d say to her most is as have some faith. Awesome. Yeah.

29:11
Yeah. No, I love that. I think it gives it gives the long view because even if it’s really difficult in the short term, you’ve got Laura here who’s 26 years later, and has the you know, most fun playful marriage you can ever think of so it’s awesome. Okay, well where can our audience find and connect with you online?

29:32
That I think the best thing is to go to the get cherished calm and and see the get to get cherished challenge, but I will tell you, I also have a weekly blog at Laura doyle.org as an orgasm. Most people don’t know that’s what it sounds.

29:51
They know most people don’t You’re right. Yeah. I’m glad that you know.

29:56
So I tried to pack it. Full What is the most ridiculously helpful information that I can every week and some inspiration? So yeah, welcome, everybody counts the blog to

30:09
Awesome. Well, clearly Laura’s so much fun. And I’m just so grateful that you were able to share and give us so much wisdom and insight, Laura, thank you.

30:18
Thank you. Well, it’s just really been a pleasure. Thank you so much. Oh, absolutely.

30:26
Well, thank you for joining. Oh, my goodness. So I hope you are thoroughly inspired to go read surrendered wife. And I do actually mean read, there is an audio book. It’s not the full audio book. It’s an abridged version. And so it is good. But truly, the actual book is so much more significant. And I’m a slow reader. So I usually prefer audio books. But I would say this one, I would actually recommend that you read it, and read it with a notebook next to it, and take notes and underline things in the book and dig into this material really significantly, because you want to walk away changed from this material. It is amazing. What I actually did when I read it is I had a friend, she and I read it together. And I would just write her notes, my emails about the different areas that I was like, Oh, my gosh, I did this and darn it, I do that. And this is where I’ve been messing up. And I should try that or this is scary for me, I guess I might try it. You know, that was kind of this whole processing thing. And I really did need a girlfriend to help me stay accountable. And it’s actually amazing, because now after we’ve both been through it, and we’ve seen our marriages changed through it, both of us can come back to each other and be like, Okay, this is what I’m going through now, what would be the surrendered wife approach to responding to this. So I would really encourage finding a friend to read this with you, and someone who has marriage struggles, and that you guys can really embrace this material together. And like I said, six months, give it six months and see what God’s gonna do with your husband. It’s incredible, the way that God has transformed my husband, just towards me, but also towards others. You know, I packed a lot of, again, the sex stuff in delight your husband, which is a huge, huge part of his heart and who he is as a man. But the surrendered wife stuff is the other piece of that, that if you don’t have that understanding, you’re still going to have this significant strife and friction, even if the sex stuff is, you know, off the charts amazing. Both of these two elements together, make your marriage the strongest possible. Read this book, right in your journal about it. And let me just pray for you Father God, I lift up the wife that’s on the end of this. Listening to this Lord, you know her her heart, you know what she struggled through, you know, the pain that she’s been through God, you know that it’s really hard for her to have hope, because of what she’s experienced because of the the pain, the heart bleeding, pain, she’s dealt with the the nights of crying herself to sleep God, you know what she’s dealt with God. And I just asked God that you would give her hope. I pray that you give her wisdom. I pray that You would help her to see hope in the midst of this Lord God, help her to see that there’s potential there’s possibility, God that you want to redeem. You want to restore God, that she doesn’t have to feel hopeless God in Jesus name, I pray that You would also give her the motivation to start this thing and finish it to purchase this book, to spend the 15 bucks do write in her journal to prioritize this in her life, because this could significantly change it God. In Jesus name we pray, Amen. So, that’s our show for today. I hope that you will share this with a girlfriend who might be struggling and needs the hope and the encouragement. Looking forward to talking to you next Tuesday. We’re going to be speaking about embodying your sexuality as a woman. I think it’s going to be a great show. And I want to get back to you then. Okay, God bless you. We’ll talk soon. But go order the surrendered wife right now.

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